Were you taught anything in school that turned out to be factually wrong?
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From: [personal profile] dubhain


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They also told us that cats, dogs, and other animals couldn't really feel pain; that they weren't self-aware; that they were not intelligent; they could not communicate; they could not problem-solve; &c. One of the primary criteria they used for determining humans were the only intelligent species was that, supposedly, only humans were tool-users. Tool use was the primary criterion for determination.

They also told us that "Democracy™" and capitalism were superior economic and political systems to any other which had ever been tried or envisioned. They told us that the United States would never, ever perform any of the actions nor institute any of the policies that were seen as abuses or abominations in the Third Reich of Germany, or the CCCP / ROC. Because we were the "Good Guys™," and "Morally superior" to all of those nations. Many of the policies and actions they assured us would never happen have become the "new normal," in recent years. (Cf. Current abductions in Portland, OR, by Federal personnel wearing no agency or unit insignia; simply dressed in "camo" fatigues, grabbing people off the streets without warning, as a part of Donald Trump's decree that "Our sacred monuments will be protected.") (Cf. the requirement in some Southwest states that Latinx folk must carry citizenship and/or residency papers on their persons at all times, or risk deportation as "Undesirable Aliens.") (Cf. the increasing erosion of constitutional protections against one's home being invaded by law enforcement personnel without a search warrant. Same for personal search and seizure.)

They told us that, if we were in trouble, we could always run to a Policeman, and that we could trust the Police to protect us and help us, in a crisis.

They taught us that, no matter how dire the crisis that might arise, we could always be confident that Science and Scientists would find a way to solve it.

They taught us that, if we were willing to work hard and not be lazy, that we could get ahead in life, live well, and enjoy a standard of living better than that which our parents did, and that we were raised in.

They taught us that the US won the war of 1812.

They taught us that the US, primarily, was responsible for winning WWI and WWII.

There are many other things they taught us, which were wrong. Some things I can see...we revise our teaching and our understanding, as we gain knowledge, and cringe at our former ignorance and stupidity. Some of them...were simply wrong.
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I was lucky enough to go to a particularly good school district. I was able (unlike most US high school students) to take 20th century European history (which stopped just after WWII, to avoid discussing the EU and the rise of Socialism in Europe.) 20th Century Wars (which also touched upon some of the late 19th century conflicts such as the Sino-Japanese War,) US Constitutional Law, Shakespeare, Humanities, contemporary World Politics, &c. I role-played representing Albania and Libya in Model UN. Won an award for role-playing Albania, I did.

I was also lucky enough to know better than to accept everything they taught us as gospel. We were taught to think critically, earlier in school, before they stopped doing that, and some of my teachers taught the official curriculum, while annotating it with comments and admonitions that...would be considered very subversive today, bless them. So I didn't believe that we won the American Revolution, or the two world wars singlehandedly, I also watched far more Canadian and British TV than most US folks (we had CBET Channel 9, from Windsor, ON, which helped broaden my worldview at least a bit.) And there was always BBC shortwave, once I had a receiver.

As I've certain unsavory ancestral connections regarding WWII, I spent a lot of time studying how the NSDAP came to power and what happened, in Germany, during WWII. I was also lucky enough to take (one of?) the first history-of-the-Holocaust classes taught at college level in the US, so far as I'm aware of. But I remember discussing "Checks and Balances™" in high school, and being told I was talking nonsense when I explained how they could be easily circumvented. As they have been. (I insisted that the key to doing so was either neutering or stacking the US Supreme Court. Go figure.) So I didn't believe everything I was taught, and all the indoctrination didn't take. But watching the US turn into what it's become, today, has been...remarkable. The parallels between things happening now, and Weimar / post-Weimar Germany are...also remarkable. And I'm very much believing Ivanka Trump's divorce testimony that the only book she ever saw Donald read was a book of Hitler's speeches he kept upon his nightstand. He's doing an inept job of emulating Hitler, but there are a lot of similarities in what he's trying to do and how he's trying to do it.

One of the biggest failings of the US in the Cold War, IMO, was that it never really imagined what might happen if the CCCP actually did collapse. We were so busy fighting it, ideologically, that we never contemplated what would happen if it suddenly were no longer there to keep us playing the "Good Guy™" role. We simply assumed, in a typically American act of inexcusable naivete, that we'd continue to be "The Good Guys™" because we simply believed in our own ideological and moral superiority — which has always been the US' version of the "Master Race" delusion so formerly beloved of the Germans, Japanese, and a helluva lot of White Folks in the Western world. (I won't get into discussing how the definition of 'race' has shifted, relatively recently, from ethnicity to skin color, but that's also an interesting subject.) We seem to have inherited a lot of our arrogant notions and prejudices from our colonial parent, and then reupholstered and distilled them (if you'll pardon my mixing metaphors) through the lens of Hollywood, and embraced them as something akin to both revealed truth and mutating into religious dogma. A dogma we're still, desperately, clinging to, because — much like Weimar Germany — we're terrified of facing the truth regarding how our world has changed since the Berlin wall fell, in '89. Certainly, none of the US "retro" craze, which started with the release of American Graffiti, back in '73, but didn't really get going until Happy Days first aired in '74, and has been re-embraced concerning the '70s and '80s in more recent years. First, we desired a diversion from Watergate and the stagflation years, and now we seek an escape from the confusion and uncertainty of the post-Cold-War era. Just as Weimar Germans sought their escape from the humiliation and devastating aftermath of the Versailles treaty. Put Fox News in the role of the Münchiner Beobachter, Trump's rallies and attempts at State military parades in the role of Hitler's rallies and Nuremburg pageants, his scapegoating of Latinx and Black folks rather than the Jews, and you have a fairly comprehensive parallel to NSDAP Germany during the '30s. Granted, with variations, but the similarities are...troubling.

Not to mention what Customs & Border Patrol are currently doing to US Citizens on the streets of Portland as I type. That's...some SA/Gestapo level action, right there....
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The biggie was biology, particularly the over-emphasis on genetics, and the complete rejection of inheritance of acquired characteristics - such as a frugal metabolism from mothers whose own mothers were starved while they were in the womb. (The field that studies this ridiculed "impossibility" today is called "epigenetics".)

Other errors were more learned than explicitly taught - if you omit key information, students will draw incorrect conclusions. Thus various areas apparantly had no history or culture until Europeans discovered them. and all the important science and technology was discovered in Europe, except whatever the ancient Babylonians and Egyptians had discovered. (I'm counting Greece as part of Europe here.)


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The farthest back piece of misinformation I remember being taught was that we have only five senses and the senses of taste did not include umami because there was only sweet, sour, bitter and salty and nothing else.

I went to a school that assumed universal belief in God among the students, and taught the existence of the Abrahamic God. A great deal of this was taught in music class in the form of hymns. The school went to considerable effort to teach about Jesus separate from God, but because the Jewish students were exempt from instruction about Jesus and got to clatter off into a different classroom when Jesus was going to be mentioned, there was a lot of non-denominational mentions of the God of the Old Testament. I ended up quite confused because I had atheist parents who weren't pushing it very hard, an aunt that was an Anglican nun who believed in living up to her responsibilities as a godmother and then got some instruction at school that was basically Jewish instruction.

A deep current of sexism was taught in my school, boys are stronger than girls, boys are smarter than girls etc.I learned that it was wonderful being a girl and that becoming a woman and getting breasts was something to look forward to that would make you much happier and more confident.

I was in elementary school when I learned that stuff I was learning in school was being taught without nuance, and that the nuances made the truth much more complicated but I didn't learn this at school. I learned it at home.

I learned that Christopher Columbus discovered America at school, and at home that it hadn't been lost in the first place and that scores or tens of thousands of boats got to America before his little fleet did.But I didn't learn what he did to the Taino until much later. My first three years of school presented two versions of aboriginal people in America. They were either savage redskins who scalped people or they were cute papooses. At the beginning of grade three they got rid of all our old readers and brought in new ones and those ones leaned heavily on the tragic elements of the colonial invasion, and the stereotype of the Noble Red Man. It was an improvement. From this I learned to expect that every three or four years the narrative would become so much more complex that it was likely to amount to a retraction.
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