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oursin ([personal profile] oursin) wrote2025-12-24 09:36 am

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Happy birthday, [personal profile] troisoiseaux!
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ysabetwordsmith ([personal profile] ysabetwordsmith) wrote2025-12-24 12:11 am
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Cuddle Party

Everyone needs contact comfort sometimes. Not everyone has ample opportunities for this in facetime. So here is a chance for a cuddle party in cyberspace. Virtual cuddling can help people feel better.

We have a cuddle room that comes with fort cushions, fort frames, sheets for draping, and a weighted blanket. A nest full of colorful egg pillows sits in one corner. There is a basket of grooming brushes, hairbrushes, and styling combs. A bin holds textured pillows. There is a big basket of craft supplies along with art markers, coloring pages, and blank paper. The kitchen has a popcorn machine. Labels are available to mark dietary needs, recipe ingredients, and level of spiciness. Here is the bathroom, open to everyone. There is a lawn tent and an outdoor hot tub. Bathers should post a sign for nude or clothed activity. Come snuggle up!


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ysabetwordsmith ([personal profile] ysabetwordsmith) wrote2025-12-23 11:20 pm

Poem: "The Right Combination of Features"

This poem is spillover from the February 2025 [community profile] crowdfunding Creative Jam. It was inspired by a prompt from [personal profile] dialecticdreamer. It also fills the "Experimentation" square in my 2-1-25 card for the Valentines Bingo fest. This poem has been sponsored by a pool with [personal profile] fuzzyred. It belongs to the Big One and Kraken threads of the Polychrome Heroics series.

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ysabetwordsmith ([personal profile] ysabetwordsmith) wrote2025-12-23 11:05 pm

Poem: "No Matter How Morally Unworthy"

This poem came out of the February 4, 2025 Poetry Fishbowl. It was inspired by prompts from [personal profile] mama_kestrel and [personal profile] see_also_friend. It also fills the "Violent Behavior" square in my 2-1-25 card for the Valentines Bingo fest. This poem has been sponsored by a pool with [personal profile] fuzzyred. It belongs to the series Peculiar Obligations.

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ysabetwordsmith ([personal profile] ysabetwordsmith) wrote2025-12-23 10:45 pm

Poem: "Happy Instruments of Salvation"

This poem is spillover from the July 1, 2025 Poetry Fishbowl. It was inspired by prompts from [personal profile] gothfvck and [personal profile] see_also_friend. It also fills the "Resist Oppression" square in my 7-1-25 card for the Western Bingo fest. This poem has been sponsored by a pool with [personal profile] fuzzyred. It belongs to the series Peculiar Obligations.

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dialecticdreamer ([personal profile] dialecticdreamer) wrote2025-12-23 10:48 pm
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Networking and Net Growth

Networking and Net Growth
By Dialecticdreamer/Sarah Williams
Part 1 of 3
Word count (story only): 769


:: Cassie’s landlord gave her a rent increase which will make her homeless. Her medical needs and food allergy makes the standard dormitory living and communal meals in homeless shelters a nightmare rather than a temporary solution. Word spreads, and… Gentle fiction for the December 2025 prompt event, with great thanks to the reader who suggested it. ::

:: This is meant to be a happy ending story, but it’s running up against my body’s reaction to the winter weather, so it’s going to be three parts long. The first is, unfortunately shorter than usual, so I apologize for that. ::




Cassie Braxton refused to look up at her doctor, or the images on the computer screen. She stared instead at the immunization chart beneath a banner that read “SCHOOL starts on 9 Sept.” Beneath the chart, someone had taped several sheets of computer paper, one atop the other.

The top layer held a handwritten “6” in red permanent marker.
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ranunculus ([personal profile] ranunculus) wrote2025-12-23 04:12 pm
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Fruitcake

Here is a holiday recipe for you!
This fruitcake is incredibly rich and yummy. I got it from my Mom, who undoubtedly clipped it out of a newspaper or farm magazine. I note that it is up on Cooks.com these days.

California Fruitcake

3/4 Cup Flour We always used all purpose white flour.
1/4 tsp Baking Powder
1/4 tsp Soda
1 tsp Salt
3/4 Cup Brown Sugar Pack tightly into measuring cup.
1 1/2 Lbs Pitted Dates Mom used brown Medjool Dates common to Calif. I like to cut them in half.
1 1/2 to 2 Cup Dried Apricots Cut into halves or quarters. Pack tightly in measuring cup.
3 Cup Nut Meats (Walnut halves) in large pieces.
3 Eggs
1 tsp Vanilla

Mix all dry ingredients.
Add to fruit, coat fruit thoroughly with flour mix.
Beat eggs until foamy, add vanilla.
Pour Egg mix over dry ingredients & fruit. Gently stir in.
Line loaf pan (bread loaf pan) with wax paper or parchment paper.
Pack pan with mix.
Bake at 300 degrees 1 hour and 20 min.
Put small pan of water in oven with the fruitcakes while baking to help keep it moist.
When cool, wrap with tinfoil and store in a dark cool place for 4 to 6 weeks to blend flavors. Or eat immediately.
Storing give a much richer flavor. We tried it soaked in rum once, and never again. The flavors of this fruitcake are so rich that the alcohol dulled and muddied the taste.
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The Wayne ([personal profile] thewayne) wrote2025-12-23 05:17 pm
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Jack White vs Trump

"Disgusting...Vulgar..."
-- musician Jack White on Trump's redecoration of Oval Office

"Jack White is a washed-up, has-been loser...It's apparent he's been masquerading as a real artist, because he fails to appreciate, and quite frankly disrespects, the splendor and significance of the Oval Office inside of 'The People's House.'"
-- WH spokesperson Steven Cheung

"'Masquerading as a real artist'? Thank you for giving me my tombstone engraving! Well here's my opinion: Trump is masquerading as a human being. He's masquerading as a Christian, as a leader, as a person with actual empathy."
-- White


I so love it when their default response is to insult people, and the people they insult are so much better at it.

EDIT: My bad. I originally posted the subject as Jack Black vs Trump, not Jack White. Bain drammage.
Lois McMaster Bujold's Blog ([syndicated profile] lois_mcmaster_bujold_feed) wrote2025-12-23 01:27 pm

Penric's Intrigues 4th collection coming in HC from Baen

I am delighted to announce that the 4th Penric & Desdemona collection on paper is coming from Baen Books in May, 2025, to be titled Penric's Intrigues. (I believe we had some title brainstorming on that a while back in a comments section on this very blog. Titles are always a challenge...)

It will contain the novel-length The Assassins of Thasalon, and the novella "Knot of Shadows".

I proofread the galleys last week. Cover art is not yet available, but the copyright page lists the artist as Kieran Yanner. This is a new artist to me, but a visit to his website looks promising.

Amazon has a listing already -- www.amazon.com/Penrics-Intrigues-Worl...

I hope Baen will be encouraged to reprint the mass market paperbacks of first two collections, which have been out-of-print for a while. (All the hardcovers, plus the paperback of Penric's Labors, remain available.)

Ta, L.

posted by Lois McMaster Bujold on December, 23
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alicebentley ([personal profile] alicebentley) wrote2025-12-23 03:43 am

Reading stuff

Using this handy DreamWidth place to document what I'm reading this year, there are several stories that I downloaded from Patreon and read as I moved them to file storage.

As usual for Seanan McGuire the stories stand on their own just fine, but are even more engaging when you have already read the other novels and short stories involving the characters.

"Infringement" (11 pages: stand alone: Melody, her grandfather, trademarking all things and likely consequences)

"What We Forget, What We Forgive" (27 pages: Incryptid/Ghost Stories: Rose Marshall meets Mary Dunlavy for her first time)

"Those Three Girls from Rush's Bend" (8 pages: stand alone: Jenny, Janey and Jamie encounter transformation)

"Seek Sweet Safety" (52 pages: October Daye series: 1906 CA earthquake, Arden and Nolan lose their parents, their home and are fugitives)

There were all delightful.
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On the DEWLine 2.0: Dwight Williams ([personal profile] dewline) wrote2025-12-23 02:58 pm

A Lesson From Sofia, Bulgaria

From the Rachel Maddow Report team:

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ysabetwordsmith ([personal profile] ysabetwordsmith) wrote2025-12-23 01:30 pm

Birdfeeding

Today is sunny and cool, almost warm -- too warm for a jacket even.  That's warmer than even the January thaw used to get.

I fed the birds.  I've seen a few sparrows and house finches.

I put out water for the birds.

EDIT 12/23/25 -- I did a bit of work around the patio.

EDIT 12/23/25 -- I did more work around the patio.

EDIT 12/23/25 -- I did more work around the patio.

EDIT 12/23/25 -- I filled the trolley twice with twigs from the parking lot brushpile, then dumped them in the firepit in the ritual meadow.

I saw a flock of mourning doves in the trees around the ritual meadow.

EDIT 12/23/25 -- I dumped another trolley of sticks in the firepit.

EDIT 12/23/25 -- I dumped another trolley of sticks in the firepit.

I've seen a fox squirrel running through the trees.  I heard a woodpecker but didn't see it.

EDIT 12/23/25 -- I dumped another trolley of sticks in the firepit.  I think I've actually removed all the ones with berries that I want to burn, so the rest should be free for other uses.

As it is getting dark, I am done for the night.

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Susan Dennis ([personal profile] susandennis) wrote2025-12-23 09:36 am

Merry Christmas to me

They just put up the Christmas Eve dinner for ordering. In the app, you select what you want and then when you want to pick it up. It's a pretty good system. And, as usual, I have spare money in my meal allowance so I ordered up two dinners! Beef Wellington and Turkey with trimmings. Plus starters and dessert. To be picked up at 4 on Wednesday. Now that's just luxury. Full on banquet with leftovers and no people to have to entertain or at least not insult. Merry Christmas to me!

Christmas day is a buffet which is fine. I'll probably eat leftovers!

No volleyball on Thursday which is also fine. I've got a real anti people attitude going on and I need some time to get over it.

Julio has not thrown up again since Sunday and seems to be fine. Maybe he just didn't like that Hills food. Both are now on the Purina prescription stuff which they do not hate. I have enough in the cupboard to get us through til the Chewy delivery arrives. And Biggie's pee is looking way better. We could be truly on the road to recovery.

The laundry is laundrying and my app says it will be done at 11. Lunch is ordered for pickup at 11:30. The Housecleaner comes at 1:30. Busy busy day!!

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oursin ([personal profile] oursin) wrote2025-12-23 03:57 pm

In the bleak midwinter - parakeets!

Had not been seeing these lately, but over the past few days have been spotting several out of the back windows.

Which is one cheering thing among various niggles and peeves -

Yesterday I was informed that my order from Boots was being delivered, and then got two texts saying they had tried to deliver it but no-one answered. WOT. There was somebody here all the time.

Also a text that my other package (fresh yeast via eBay) had been delivered (this comes through the letterbox) - no sign of this so presume it has gone to the wrong door, and so far nobody has come round to pop it through ours.*

However, at least the Boots parcel turned up today: address label had street number blurred so reasons for mistaking, usual postperson recognised name, possibly yesterday was a seasonal worker?

Other annoyance: Kobo ereader running very sluggish - though this does not seem to apply across all books, which is weird?? Anyway, I connected to wifi in order to update the software, as possibly bearing on the matter, and dash it, it synced a whole load of things I had already downloaded and I have been obliged to clean up the duplicates.

I am, though, grateful that Christmas grocery orders have been nothing missing and no substitutions except for 1 thing which was not at all critical. Also oops, the pudding I ordered was rather smaller than I anticipated, but I feel one can have too much Xmas pud, and there are mince pies, brandy butter, etc.

In further happy news, the Lincolnshire Wolds Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty has been saved from oil drilling.

^ETA: somebody from 2 doors down brought it round this evening. The address on the package was perfectly clear.

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mount_oregano ([personal profile] mount_oregano) wrote2025-12-23 09:10 am

Your father’s first Christmas

Photo of Sean as a baby

I wrote this piece as a Christmas present for my nephew in 2004.

 

This is your first Christmas, Sean, and since you’re only eight months old, I know this story might not impress you much, but it seems like the right time to tell it.

Your father was not quite three months old on his first Christmas, and I was ten years old. I knew enough about babies to know they don’t really do much at first, but eventually they grow into real people. That was the exciting puzzle. What was this new baby brother going to be like? We didn’t have many clues, but we watched for them all the time. Who was Louis Peter Burke?

Your Grandmother Burke died well before you were born, so you don’t know much about her. Here is her Christmas tree decorating theory: More is better. In architectural terms, it was rococo baroque.

During Christmas Eve day, we decorated the tree. First the lights went on — big lights, small lights, steady lights, twinkle lights, colored lights, white lights, all the lights we had, and there were plenty. Second, we hung every single ornament we had on the tree, and, again, there were plenty. If one was ugly or beat up, it went way in the inside where it could add color or sparkle without really being visible. The only rule was smaller stuff on top, bigger stuff on the bottom. Finally, we added tinsel and garlands of various types and colors to be sure there was maximum sparkle.

Then we waited for nightfall, since only a darkened house could do justice to the masterpiece we had created.

Meanwhile, we dressed your father in a red-and-white-striped elf-costume pajama set that an aunt had given him, complete with a pointy cap. He didn’t care for the cap but we made him wear it anyway, at least long enough for a photo, which may still be around somewhere. He looked more silly than elfish. He certainly had no idea about what was going on. He was too little to understand much of anything.

The moment to light the tree arrived. We turned out all the lamps and closed the front curtains to block the streetlight. With a flip of a switch, the tree flashed on, providing enough sparkling light to read by.

Your father’s eyes got big and he couldn’t take them off the tree. He liked it! He liked it a lot! Even when we turned the room lights back on, he continued to stare at the tree, fascinated.

It was a clue, the first clue I remember, about your father’s personality. He liked colorful, beautiful things — at least, we thought the tree was beautiful, and in a rococo way, it certainly was. We lit the tree for him throughout the holidays for the sheer fun of watching him enjoy it.

I don’t remember much else about that Christmas, like what I got as presents, what anyone else got, whether there was snow, or what we had for Christmas dinner. All I remember is the intense look of surprise and delight on your father’s little face, and how merry a Christmas he made it for all of us because we could make him happy, and because we had learned a little bit about him.

Finding out who someone is takes a long time. I’m still learning things about my brother Louis. Fatherhood, for example, has revealed new aspects of his personality and interests. In the same delighted way that I first saw so many years ago, he could not be more curious and excited to learn about you. Who is Sean Patrick Burke?

This is your father’s first Christmas with you. I hope it is merry.

 

Copyright © 2004 by Sue Burke, all rights assigned to Sean Patrick Burke.

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allezhop ([personal profile] allezhop) wrote2025-12-23 08:38 am

Steady on

I remember walking to school as a teenager and noticing an elderly man who watered his garden every morning at the exact time I passed by. I couldn’t imagine why anyone would be up that early if they didn’t have to. (I assumed a lot back then, but that’s sixteen for you.) Now, I’ve become that person. On my days off, I wake up before dawn to enjoy my routines and get everything done before lunch so I can laze about all afternoon.

(I don’t know if that man ever lazed about, but I certainly do.)

I don’t really celebrate holidays anymore. Since I’m usually desperate for downtime and a break from being around people, I’ve created my own solo traditions - like a Harry Potter marathon - and specific foods that I love. I’m content. In the back of my mind, I know there is always the option to start new traditions with friends who also don’t have local family if I ever crave human contact. So far, though, that hasn't been the case.

Yesterday, I made progress on my next video by recording the audio and adding the images. I’m not entirely happy with the audio, though; it dropped out in a few spots early on, likely because of how I set the noise filter. I might re-record it today, or I might just let it be. I want to create quality content, but letting go of perfectionism is often the only way I can create anything at all. It’s a hard balance to find.

In the afternoon, I spent a lot of time reading and did a DIY version of a vibroacoustic bed at home. I used a vibrating pad and binaural beats; they weren't synced the way a professional sound bed would be, but it was still deeply relaxing and meditative. (I incorporate meditation and self-hypnosis to all of these sessions.) I also watched Resident Alien. The end of season two is an improvement, but I’ve heard the final two seasons are very short. It’s a shame it didn't maintain the same excellent blend of comedy and characterization of the first season, but oh well.

So far today, I’ve finished my morning routine, done some gentle yoga, and taken out the trash. I tidied the kitchen a little, too. I still need to vacuum upstairs, but I’ll save that for later in the morning so I'm not being a terrible neighbor.

It’s a rainy day, so I’m tempted to just read all morning, but I think I’ll compromise by working on my video from the comfort of my bed.

Health | The Atlantic ([syndicated profile] theatlantic_health_feed) wrote2025-12-23 08:00 am

I Bought ‘GLP-3’

Posted by Sarah Zhang

After Katie started on Ozempic, she got her hairdresser interested, too. This summer, when they saw each other again, she thought that her hairdresser had lost some weight and that she looked “so great.”

“Are you still on a GLP-1?” she asked, referring to the class of blockbuster drugs that includes Ozempic and obesity meds.

“Actually,” her hairdresser replied, “I’m on a GLP-3.

Okay, so, technically, there is no such thing as a GLP-3 drug. But “GLP-3” is a name used on the underground market for retatrutide, an obesity drug still being studied by the pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly. As the nickname implies, retatrutide is like a GLP-1 drug—but more, more, more. It’s more effective, has more modes of action, and induces more weight loss. It may in fact be the most powerful weight-loss drug ever created.

When early retatrutide data were presented at a medical conference in 2023, a scientist who was there told me, the usually staid audience burst into spontaneous applause. Two weeks ago, the first of the highly anticipated Phase 3 clinical-trial results corroborated the jaw-dropping initial numbers: Patients lost on average 71 pounds, or 29 percent of their body weight—double what people lose on semaglutide, which is better known as Ozempic or Wegovy. Some trial participants stopped retatrutide early because they had lost too much weight; they stopped, in other words, because the drug was too effective. As of now, retatrutide is still not approved, though. The FDA has yet to subject its safety and efficacy data to close scrutiny. You cannot get retatrutide from your doctor. You cannot buy it at a pharmacy.

“I’m a very by-the-book, ‘The doctor gives it to you; you take it’ kind of person,” Katie told me. (The Atlantic agreed to identify some sources by their first names only for reasons of medical privacy.) When her hairdresser first mentioned retatrutide in the summer, the Phase 3 results weren’t even out. “But she was just like, ‘It was incredible,’” Katie said. When she looked up retatrutide online, she came across people posting “insane” before-and-after photos.

Katie, who is 44, had been prescribed Ozempic by her doctor two years ago, but she was ready for something new: Her co-pay had just shot up from $20 to $700 a month. She was nauseated all the time, but she wasn’t losing any more weight after stalling at 30 pounds. So with her hairdresser’s help, Katie began ordering freeze-dried retatrutide online, mixing the white powder with sterile water, calculating dosages, and injecting herself with needles. She paid only a fraction of what Ozempic had cost her. Six months later, she’s lost another 20 pounds.

The catch, of course, is that her drugs do not come from Eli Lilly, nor do any of the drugs on the entirely unregulated underground market. No one is saying exactly where they do come from, but it’s commonly assumed that unnamed suppliers are copying Eli Lilly’s drug in China.

Over the past year, the underground market has only grown, in both size and visibility. What began with early adopters—many of them bodybuilders and biohackers—using crypto to buy the drug through Chinese contacts on Telegram has morphed into a network of slick websites where U.S. resellers take PayPal or credit cards. On social media, influencers openly hawk affiliate discount codes for “GLP-3” and “reta.” And retatrutide is spreading through old-fashioned word of mouth—like with Katie and her hairdresser—because its effects are just so visible.

The true scope of the underground market is by design difficult to know, but dozens of brands have popped up. Forums and group chats devoted to retatrutide have up to tens of thousands of members. In certain circles, retatrutide is almost normalized. Tyler Simmons, 36, who lives in Northern California and is a bit health obsessed, told me he personally knows 30 to 40 people on retatrutide.

Experts who study counterfeit and copycat pharmaceuticals tell me they cannot think of another drug that gained this level of popularity so fast, before its clinical trials even concluded. The people injecting underground retatrutide have entered—willingly, it seems—into an immense biological and social experiment.

This May, to understand the process, I purchased retatrutide from several online vendors I found easily through social media. (I did not intend to use any of the drugs, The Atlantic’s lawyers would want me to note for the record.) The process was disarmingly casual for something people were injecting into their bodies. It felt, in some cases, just like ordering socks. One vendor sent a Shop-app link to track my package.

There were some obvious signs that these are not entirely aboveboard operations, though. For one, the websites were plastered with disclaimers that their products were for “research use only.” These disclaimers satisfy a legal loophole that allows drug compounds to be sold for lab research but not for human use. Hence, sellers and buyers of retatrutide often refer to this as a “gray market.”  

But in fact, people are plainly buying it to inject themselves. Though I sometimes saw commenters online use the fig leaf of saying “my lab rat” (which were losing comically large amounts of weight for rodents), most were discussing personal use quite openly. And vendors are not always coy about the true purpose. After the Substacker known as Crémieux wrote a popular guide to buying cheap weight-loss drugs—touting retatrutide as his top pick—one vendor, Peptide Partners, sent a discount code to share with readers: “ScrewTariffs” for 15 percent off.

A package I bought from another company, called Nexaph, originated in Indiana, according to the tracking info, but the return address on its label was in Wyoming. That address leads to a strip-mall office registered to an improbable 20,000 businesses. The cheapest retatrutide tends to come directly from China, though, sold via nebulous entities without websites. I bought one batch from a sales rep on Telegram for Jinan Elitepeptide Chemical Co. A week and a half later, I received a box for a face massager, sealed with a sticker that read, in Chinese, “Original packaging. Authentic product.” Inside were the 10 small unlabeled vials of white powder that I had ordered. (No massager, though.) None of the vendors responded to my subsequent request for comment, except R3JUVEN8, which sent me a statement reiterating that its products, including the retatrutide branded as “Radiant Sculpt” on its site, are “exclusively for laboratory research use.”

The vials I purchased came with no further information about who manufactured the powder or where. But China is home to a large, legitimate drug-manufacturing base, meaning it has the expertise to produce retatrutide. And even before retatrutide caught on, vendors linked to China were selling other peptides—a category of compounds that includes the obesity drugs semaglutide (Ozempic/Wegovy) and tirzepatide (Mounjaro/Zepbound), as well as substances, such as BPC-157, that are popular in fitness and wellness circles. Making another peptide would not be a huge leap; retatrutide as a molecule is not especially difficult for a knowledgeable chemist to copy.

The drug’s molecular structure has been public for years, since Eli Lilly published it in a research paper in 2022. It is essentially a chain of 39 amino-acid building blocks, its shape cleverly designed to fit into the receptors of three different hormones all at once: GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon. (This triple action is the 3 in GLP-3.) The existing obesity drugs on the market hit GLP-1 receptors or GLP-1 plus GIP receptors. Only retatrutide adds glucagon for the full trifecta.  

Where earlier obesity drugs work primarily through appetite suppression, glucagon seems to also boost metabolism by revving up the liver. Put them together and the triple combo might achieve the best of all worlds: “You get a reduction in food intake, and you can turn the dial up and get a little better energy expenditure,” Jonathan Campbell, an obesity researcher at Duke, told me. In other words, fewer calories in and more calories out.

Scientists knew that retatrutide held promise, but when those astonishing preliminary results were shared in 2023, excitement spilled out from labs into the public. A new and more powerful obesity drug was coming, and some people, it turns out, could not wait.

“I’m a risk-taker,” Elizabeth, 62, told me. When she started buying reta in 2024, she had already tried semaglutide and tirzepatide, but she was eager to get her hands on the most effective drug. Back then, the underground market operated much less openly. She had to find a Chinese sales rep on WhatsApp, then transfer hundreds of dollars for several months of supply.

As a biologist herself, Elizabeth was comfortable working with needles and reading scientific papers. She modeled her dosing regimen on the clinical-trial protocol. When her heart began racing, she accepted it as a documented side effect of retatrutide. She has lost more than 100 pounds in the past two and a half years—first on the two older drugs and the last 50 or so pounds on retatrutide. After a lifelong struggle with obesity, she told me in May, these are “some of the most amazing events of my whole life.”

For that, she was willing to risk not just her money, but the potential downsides—both known and unknown—of taking retatrutide, a novel yet clearly powerful drug. The full Phase 3 clinical-trial results should provide a clearer picture soon, but one noteworthy finding so far is dysesthesia, or odd sensations in the skin, such as burning and pain, that suggest unrest in the nervous system. One in five patients on the highest dose of retatrutide experienced dysesthesia, roughly triple its occurrence among patients taking semaglutide’s current maximum dose.

Retatrutide causes many of the other side effects of drugs in its class, too: nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, and more serious ones. Adrian Crook, a fitness influencer on YouTube, made a video about how retatrutide almost landed him in the hospital when his stomach became paralyzed. And Elizabeth says she has lost quite a bit of muscle on the drug. “I’m as weak as a kitten,” she told me.

Then there are the risks of injecting drugs sold for “research use only” on the underground market. These include, but are not limited to, the fact that the vials might contain: a different weight-loss drug or an entirely unknown substance, either benign or harmful; dangerous bacteria or traces of bacteria called endotoxins; the wrong dose, whether too low (and therefore ineffective) or too high (which could cause side effects of alarming intensity, because retatrutide is supposed to be slowly titrated up over as many as 20 weeks as your body acclimates to the drug); or other contaminants, such as solvents used in manufacturing or heavy metals.

“All of this stuff just scares the crap out of me,” Randy Seeley concluded after enumerating the potential dangers to me. Seeley, who studies obesity at the University of Michigan, uses peptides for research in his lab, and even the stuff sourced to legitimate scientific-supply companies doesn’t always work as expected, he said. Compounds manufactured for the petri dish are not held to the same strict standards as those made for human use.

It’s not quite fair to say the underground market comes with zero accountability, though. Certain corners, at least, have developed a robust culture of lab testing. A handful of labs—the Levi Strausses of the peptide gold rush—now specialize in testing these compounds. Many vendors post “certificates of analysis” attesting to their purity and sterility. Buyers can send vials to laboratories themselves, either as part of an organized group test or on their own. Some vendors will even refund batches that fail. Without testing, Marco, 53, told me, he would never have injected retatrutide from the internet. (Marco is his middle name.) The tests may not cover every hypothetical risk, but they make it safe enough to assure him. “There’s a lot of people who just get these things and shoot them,” he said. “I don’t judge them in any way, but I think those people are out of their minds.”

The tests, insofar as they are reliable, do flag problems. According to Finnrick Analytics, a start-up that provides free peptide tests and publicly shares the results, 10 percent of the retatrutide samples it has tested in the past 60 days had issues of sterility, purity, or incorrect dosing. Two other peptide-testing labs, Trustpointe and Janoshik, have said in interviews with Rory Hester, a.k.a. PepTok on YouTube, that they see, respectively, an overall fail rate of 20 percent and a 3 to 5 percent fail rate for sterility alone across all peptides. These are not based on random samples—labs test only what their customers send. On the whole, though, these numbers suggest that, although most of the retatrutide flowing through the underground market is what vendors promise it is, the drugs also fail testing at rates far, far higher than is acceptable in standard drug manufacturing.

As retatrutide has grown in popularity, the people seeking it out are no longer just self-professed risk-takers. “The future of the market is normies,” Hester, who also writes the peptide-focused Substack Gray Market, told me. The world of Telegram, Discord, and WhatsApp—what Hester calls the “dark gray” peptide market—is by design somewhat inaccessible. “Your grandmother is not going to go on Telegram,” he said. The customer-friendly U.S.-based sites that he calls “light gray” can appeal to a much larger audience. Hester is putting his money where his mouth is. Earlier this month, he announced that he co-owns the peptide company Crush Research.

But the size of the gray market may be fundamentally at odds with its viability. The bigger it gets, the more people are injecting themselves thanks to a legal loophole, and the harder it may be for authorities to ignore. (The FDA did not respond to a request for comment. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has previously promised to reverse the FDA’s “aggressive suppression” of peptides—along with psychedelics, raw milk, sunshine, and other treatments that “can’t be patented”—though it’s unclear how that applies to retatrutide specifically, which is in fact patented.) And not everyone in the gray market welcomes the attention or the scrutiny that follows. As Finnrick has been posting test results by vendor, its COO, Raphaël Mazoyer, told me, online commentators have accused the company of being an agent of the FDA and the Chinese government. (He denied both.)

A week ago, rumors started swirling, as they periodically do, of a coming U.S. crackdown. Some buyers online dismissed them as an attempt to juice panic buying. Several websites did stop selling retatrutide, though.

The “dark gray” market is not as easily within the grasp of U.S. authorities, but it’s been a turbulent few months there, too. In September, two of the most popular retatrutide suppliers from China abruptly disappeared. Their sales reps stopped replying to messages, stranding buyers who had already paid hundreds of dollars. Rumors later spread of arrests in China. Then, in November, a third vendor’s retatrutide allegedly landed two people in the hospital, according to warnings that spread on social media. The company blamed a raid for interfering with the quality of its drugs. Someone started impersonating its sales rep by using a sneakily similar username. Later, when no further details came out, online commentators started wondering if the hospitalizations were just a hoax. It’s hard to know what is real and what is fake, but that is the nature of an underground market. New vendors keep popping up, like a game of whack-a-mole.

Meanwhile, the frenzy over retatrutide has kicked into even higher gear since the Phase 3 results were announced this month. When the FDA approves the drug, which is widely expected, it will arrive as possibly the most hotly anticipated drug ever. The retatrutide buyers I interviewed said they welcome the legitimate stuff—though they expect it to be incredibly expensive. Marco, whose insurance actually covers obesity drugs, told me he will happily keep buying on the underground market for friends who otherwise can’t afford retatrutide. In any case, he’s stocked up. “I have a year’s supply of reta in my freezer,” he said.

GLP-1 drugs are, in general, meant to be taken indefinitely, but recently, Elizabeth told me she was going to quit retatrutide, at least temporarily. She had reached her goal weight—what she weighed in high school 45 years ago. “Incredible but I feel lousy,” she wrote. She was experiencing both extreme fatigue, which she couldn’t directly attribute to retatrutide, and anhedonia, or an inability to feel pleasure, which is anecdotally linked to GLP-1 drugs in some people. “Would you trade happiness for thinness? Does it have to be one or the other?” she wrote. “At this point, I’m beginning to wonder.” The psychological effect of these drugs really needs to be studied, she added. At this point, a year and a half in, she has been taking retatrutide longer than patients in the concluded clinical trials. She’s hoping to try a lower dose, perhaps one at which she can maintain her weight without feeling so lousy.

Elizabeth has never told her doctor about taking an unapproved drug or buying from the underground market. This whole time with retatrutide, she’s been figuring it out on her own.

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ranunculus ([personal profile] ranunculus) wrote2025-12-22 09:26 pm

Weather Talk

The river came up and did a little of very half hearted flooding yesterday, mostly it just ran bank full.  Today it didn't rain till well after dark. Tomorrow's forecast is for 1.25 inches, enough to bring the river right back up again, but I doubt the flooding will be bad here very close to the headwaters of our Russian River. 

The cows wandered into the horse pasture yesterday evening, prompting Donald and I to go out, cut a tree and a limb off the fence (they were fairly small) and get the fence working.  My it is nice to have repaired the wire under the road! It makes the whole system work better.  The meter says it is carrying 8 jewels, which is enough to make you really, really, really wish you had never touched the wire.  Speaking of he cows, they seem calm and happy so whatever was scaring them either isn't there any more or isn't in this pasture. Since there really is no boundary except a wire fence (with the gate open) I hope that whatever it was has moved on.  Donald and I walked from the top to the bottom of Jungle Pasture today and saw nothing out of the ordinary. No tracks even.

Due to the forecast of flooding and holiday traffic I took Donald to the Smart Train today. Tomorrow there might be flooding and it will be raining.  Today it was a pretty nice drive. 

Tomorrow. Chores around the house, replace light fixture at the Red Barn.